Ohio Vet Needs Helps: Charged With Beating Former Friend to Death
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[Editor Conservative Culture] : We revised the title of the article due to the information we have received. We have asked for direct comment from the family. We also have edited a number of comments for the slanderous and unsubstantiated comments. There is much that remains unknown. What appears to be the case:. The Vet Jason Roach apparently beat up a former friend who had come to his house. The wife was apparently not home. No one seems to know why the fight broke out. Kelly Douglass died from the beating. At this time is only speculation that there was some relationship that formed between the wife and Kelly. There is at this time only speculation that Jason and his wife were in the process of getting a divorce. Much of this information comes from news (which isn’t really clear either) and comments from those who claim to be family members in the comments.
The Admin Mark simply posted this article because he is concerned about the Vets and their families. They go through a tremendous amount of stress and pressure. This is a tragic situation. If we learn more facts they will be posted.
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Original Post
Received this from a Vet named Nathan Martin. He gave me the heads up on the Ohio Vet being charged with manslaughter. It appears that this man kept hitting on his wife while he was in Iraq and had enough stupidity to show up while he was home. Nathan’s comments are below and are followed by the article.
I normally don’t write to ask people help in fundraising efforts. But this is a Soldier who needs our help, and by the accounts of the two people I know, this is really a problem to be helped with. It is bad enough that our troops don’t get the help they need, but then when they do things that we ourselves would do, it is PTSD or whatever label they can use to make us seem less human and animalistic.
Here is an an account from one who knows the situation he also sent.
Please read the article below. I just heard about this last night. Jason is an OIF vet who had another individual who tried to take advantage of Jason’s wife while he was deployed. After Jason returned this individual did not stop his advances and eventually arrived at Jason’s home and would not leave. While trying to get him off of Jason’s property the individual feel and hit his head and died. Now the police are trying to charge Jason with manslaughter. He needs our help. There will be fun raising efforts to pay for his defense, but the immediate action is a possible rally for Jason at the Hamilton County Jail on December 29th.
Here is the MSM report.
Tags: Conservative, Ohio[Cincinnati.com] SPRINGFIELD TWP. - A 28-year-old man was held on $500,000 bond this morning after police charged him with the beating death of a Hamilton man during a dispute late Monday.
Jason Roach faces one charge of voluntary manslaughter in the death of Kelly Douglass, 32, of Hamilton.
Court records show Roach beat Douglass “while under the influence of sudden passion or in a sudden fit of rage, either of which is brought on by serious provocation …by Kelly Douglass that is reasonably sufficient to incite Jason Roach into using deadly force….”
Police received a 7:35 p.m. report of a person assaulted in the 11800 block of John Gray Road, according to Hamilton County emergency communication reports.
When firefighters responded, they found a person with a lost pulse, according to communication logs.
Douglass was taken to Mercy Hospital Fairfield, where he died a short time later, Springfield Township police said.
Hamilton County Municipal Court Judge Russell Mock set Roach’s bond today at $500,000.
Roach has “absolutely no record whatsoever,” his attorney, Lisa Rabanus, said today.
Roach has worked for Avon for six years, she added, and served a one-year tour in Iraq for the U.S. Army as a recalled Reservist.










Bob Jones
on Fri, 21st Dec 2007 3:22 pm
The situation is nothing like that is described…
His wife along with Jason had been friends with Kelly for along time…
This isnt a situation of a war vet coming home and just finding out about it…
Kelly had watched Jasons kids before and vice vera so they knew eachother very well…They hung out and went places together..
A Lifelong friend of Kelly's
on Fri, 21st Dec 2007 8:40 pm
Thank you, Bob, for sharing your insight on the situation.
Mark - Before you make false statements regarding Kelly Douglas, you should do your research first. If you think Kelly “fell and hit his head” listen to the 911 call where the fireman asks Jason if he did this to Kelly with his hands and he says yes. Kelly Douglas was not a stupid man, he was a kind, gentle, and polite human being. A wonderful son, brother, and father that does not deserve to be slandered by you. Instead of giving a Murderer your money, why don’t you send checks to the victim’s daughter? Being a Vet does not give you the right to take a life, Jason Roach is an animal. Rest in Peace Kelly
Maggie McGilley
on Fri, 21st Dec 2007 11:26 pm
Kelly was not stalking Mrs. Roach, who was, in fact, sleeping with Kelly… I don’t think Jason intended to kill Kelly, but please don’t make him out as some kind of hero just protecting his family from a stalker. Jason acted in anger and betrayal. There are no heroes in this one. All three of them were wrong in their decisions and actions…I’m sure all three would like to take back some of their actions, now. I wish them all the best. This is a case where you must reap what you sow.
BJT a Soldier
on Sat, 22nd Dec 2007 3:36 pm
I’m a US Army NCO and a cousin to the victim.
No person has the right to take a life of another. When we are on the battlefield under fire and in a tactical environment lives are lost. Their are a lot of Soldier returning home and killing their spouses and family due to affairs.(affairs happen all the time to Soldier which is wrong but true) Whether Kelly was sleeping with Jason’s wife or not he had no right to take someones life and should pay the price of his action. Kelly’s daughter and Jason kids were close friends and played together all the time.
If Kelly was really stalking her then why did she go to the funeral and grave site? Where she should have been is with her husband if they were indeed still living together.
As a Soldier I would never give money to another Soldier for killing someone not in a combat zone under orders by our Commander in Chief.
All three were wrong, if an affair was going on, you still do not have the right to kill someone in cold blood.
BJTMG
on Sat, 22nd Dec 2007 5:33 pm
I am also a cousin of the victim.
My husband has done a tour in Iraq serving with the Marines. Everyday he faced the idea that he may not come home. I received several letters from my husband telling me that IEDs went off right by him or under his AAV, and with that I would never think it to be ok for my husband to take the life of another human being. Men and women have sacrificed their lives in the war with Iraq. Maybe America has forgotten, but they go there to defend Americans’ rights to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Just because he defended those rights does not mean he gets to play God and choose who lives and who doesn’t, and get away with it. It is hard to think that America has gone soft on murderers because that is in fact what Jason Roach is. What sort of example are we leaving for the future of America by helping a man who has taken the life of another? Murder is wrong and Jason should not be allowed to use the “Veteran” card to get out of what he did. This site is a freaking joke! If the marines from the Haditha situation have to rot in prison for what they did for their country under an extremely stressful situation than this coward deserves to rot along with all the other criminals. As an American I would never give money to somebody who broke the law. My money can be spent in better place, and quite frankly I am not to thrilled with the idea of letting a killer walk the streets freely. People everyday have to practice self-control everyday why should Jason be any different? Why does Jason get to be the exception? He doesn’t! Not to mention if I found out my spouse was cheating on me I would be more upset with the fact that my spouse didn’t love me enough to be honest and faithful to me when I was in battle. If Kelly was in fact stalking his wife which I think is ridiculous; his wife didn’t seemed to bothered with it because one great thing about our legal system is that we have such things as a restraining orders.
Angie Hensley
on Sun, 23rd Dec 2007 8:00 am
First off let me set something straight by saying right now Jason is not an anmial or a murder….murder has to have an intent to kill someone…this was a terrible accdient and effected everyone involved. Did Jason lose control, yes, the fact remains Kelly went to Jasons house, Jason did not go looking for Kelly when in fact Kelly knew Jason was upset at him and yet still came over. As far as Im concerned all parties involved can take thier part in this. Does anyone think Kelly would have appreciated the fact of another man having a relationship w/ his wife as he did w/ Jasons? No, it was disrespectful. Anyone that knew Jason would tell you that Jason is nothing but a very kind, generous, loving, compassionate person whom I would have never thought in millon years would be in this perdiciment.
The old saying you mess with fire you may get burnt well this indeed was true for Kelly and Jason both. Regarding the millitary, Jason should not just be set free b/c he is a vet that is true however all the facts need to be considered such as things like PTSD. None of us know excatley what went down there that night noboby but Jason and Kelly, Nobody knows what happened or what was sad along with the fact the autopsy hasnt even come back yet to show how Kelly actually died, he could have died from a fall to the ground or even possible heat attack. I am not trying to say what happened hear wasnt wrong, it was and my heart goes out to Kellys daughter and all of his family as well as it does to Jasons daughters and his family members. This was a terrible ACCIDENT! anyone that knows Jason even just a little bit would know this is not something he would ever do on purpose, death was never his intent, it was probably to scare him to stay away from his wife. The guilt Jason will live with every day will be far worse to him over any Jail time the system will give him. There are also things that have not been released that the public doesnt even know about yet so to speculate like all of us know excatley went down is wrong b/c infact none of us do. I knew Kelly and he was a very kind good guy, but please dont put like the only victim hear, thier are other vicitims like Jasons family and his two small daugthers, Kelly was just as much in the wrong as Jason and I am sure if both knew the what the final outcome would be they would have both done things differently. We should all try to put our seleves in Jasons place, he loves his wife more than anything in this world as much as he loves his own children, in a fit or rage this happened. You will also hear on the 911 calls that Jason was screaming for help and called 911 himself, if this was “murder” than I think Jason would have been a little smarter than to call the cops himself. I dont want anyone in this situation to be slandered, Kelly, Jason, or his wife……all parties had a part in this but the fact remains this was an ACCIDENT!
Carol Ferguson
on Sun, 23rd Dec 2007 6:49 pm
I totally agree that this was a terrible accident. No one knows exactly what happened that night except for Jason and kelly. I do not believe that Jason is a murderer. I know Jason and he is a very compassion caring and loving husband and father and he would never had done anything like what happened that night. in a normal state of mind. Unless you have been in a war you don’t know what really happens to a persons mind to lose control like this or was it merely self defense. This man fought for our country and was going to rein list. He has never been in trouble ever. No it does not make it alright to take another persons life and I don’t believe that is what Jason had planned on happening. However no one knows what happened or what was going thru his mind when Kelly after being told not to come to their home because he was not welcome there went anyway looking for trouble and that is just what he got. How unfortunate for everyone involved. Both men with children now both without their dads. If Kelly had done what he was asked to do by not coming over this would never had happened Kelly went looking for Jason and was on Jason’s property and would not leave and I believe assaulted Jason first. As stated above there are things that have not been released yet that would make it more clear exactly what was going down. The truth will come out and it will show that Jason was clearly defending himself. This was a tragic accident and people need to see this and want to help his children. This man went to war for his country and came home to his wife and children to have something like this happen is so unfair to his children and to Kelly’s. You need to look past the adults in this and look at the children that are the real parties that are being hurt. Their dad was gone all that time in Irag and then finally comes home and now he is gone again only this time who knows how long he will be gone. This would be different if he intentionally planned on taking Kelly’s life. He did not go looking for Kelly —- Kelly went looking for him and this was a accident. This is clearly an accident or why would Jason have called 911. This is America I don’t understand how anyone would NOT want to help these children they are the victims.
A Lifelong friend of Kelly's
on Mon, 24th Dec 2007 10:49 pm
Obviously, you people do not know Kelly at all. To say that he would go looking for trouble is ridiculous. Knowing Kelly my entire life, he is not the type of man that would see a woman who is married. Whether they were seperated, or his wife was playing both of them - she needs to straighten that out. If you believe that Kelly was sleeping with another man’s woman out of disrespect, that is mere speculation, only Jason’s wife knows the truth. Don’t put your 2 cents in unless Jason’s wife confirmed to you that they were simply having some type of affair behind her husband’s back. Even if that was the case, the last I checked it is illegal to assault someone because you can’t control yourself or your wife. For this woman to come to Kelly’s funeral, I would bet that there was a real friendship between them. Kelly has never been disrespectful to any man or woman - he was a true gentleman. He was kind and polite since we were young and into adulthood. You continue to say how Jason has never been in trouble; yet neither has Kelly. It will be interesting to see why exactly Kelly went over there, I guarentee you it was not to start trouble - if anything he would try to make peace. Quite frankly, even if you were correct - if I told someone to stay away from my home and they showed up - I would simply not answer the door and call the police. All of this is speculation and I hope when all the facts are together the full picture will come together. Unlike some of you that believe Jason will be cleared, I beg to differ. I believe he is the one that was looking for trouble. Oh, and that’s wonderful that Jason called 911 - I have not heard that tape yet. I have only heard the call that the firefighter made when he saw Kelly beaten and unconcious on the side of the road - he called because he thought Kelly was in a car accident. Just out of curiosity, how long did it take Jason to call 911? How long did Kelly lay bleeding and unconcious? Yeah, that’s what I thought.
COUSIN AND MOM OF 3
on Tue, 25th Dec 2007 6:27 am
KELLY WAS A MAN AND DESERVES TO HAVE PEOPLE RESPECT HIM NOT SLANDER HIM. WE DON’T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY BEHIND HIS SUPOSED AFFAIR OR WAS IT JUST A FRIENDSHIP THAT KELLY AND JASONS WIFE JUST HAD THAT GOT SO CLOSE (NOT INVOLVING SEX) DURING HIS TIME IN IRAQ THAT HE COULDN’T EXCEPT. HELL WHEN MY HUSBAND WAS GONE ONCE A HAD A NEIGHBORS HUSBAND COME KILL A HUGGGEEEE SPIDER THATS NOT NORMAL IS IT.. BUT WHEN YOUR SPOUSE IS NOT AROUND AND YOU HAVE A GOOD MALE FRIEND SOMETIMES THEY DO FOR YOU SMALL THING THAT YOU CONSIDER TRIVIAL BUT YOUR SPOUSE CONSIDERS HIS AND ONLY HIS TERRITORY. LIKE THOSE BEFORE HAVE SAID WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH.. EVEN JASONS WIFE WILL PROBABLY NEVER TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH THAT IS THE FATHER OF HER CHILDREN AND NO MATTER WHAT HER FEELINGS FOR HIM ARE HER FIRST WILL BE TO PROTECT THEM I HOPE.. I HAVE HEARD SO MUCH STUFF FROM KELLY WENT THERE BECAUSE JASON WAS BEATING HIS WIFE BECAUSE HE FOUND OUT SHE WAS CHEATING WITH KELLY IF THATS TRUE THEN WHO WAS PROTECTING WHOM…WELL WHATEVER THE STORY WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE ONE SIDE WE BELIEVE AND FOR ME THAT IS MY COUSINS IN HEAVEN AND JASON NEEDS OUR PRAYERS HE KILLED HIS FRIEND AND A FATHER TO HIS KIDS FRIEND THAT IS A HARD THING TO LIVE WITH AND I HOPE HE TRULY REGRETS HIS ACTIONS.. ITS NOT A MATTER OF A MAN PROTECTING HIS FAMILY GIVE ME A BRAKE ITS A MATTER OF A MANS EGO GETTING THE BEST OF HIM…AND AS FAR AS THIS SEND MONEY THING IM SURE THE IF JASON IS THIS GREAT MAN EVERYONE SAYS HE WOULD RATHER MAKE SURE HIS KIDS AND KELLYS KIDS HAVE WHAT THEY NEED AFTER ALL THEY DON’T HAVE THIER DADS ANYMORE EVEN IF ONE IS STILL ALIVE. WHY SHOULD A CHILD BE PUNISHED FOR THE UNCONTROLABLE BEHAVIOR OF THEIR PARENTS. I WOULD BE MORE IMPRESSED WITH A TRUST FOR KELLY AND JASONS CHILDREN MORE THAN LETS HELP A MAN WHOM HAS KILLED GET OFF..IF HE WAS SUFFERING FROM PROBLEMS FROM IRAQ DO YOU THINK THIS WON’T CAUSE HIM A WHOLE OTHER PSYCH PROBLEM THEN WHEN HE SNAPS AGAIN WILL WE BLAME IT ON SOMETHING ELSE. MAYBE HE SHOULD JUST BE THIS MAN THAT SAYS HEY I SCREWED UP AND LOST IT ALL OVER SEX (IF THATS WHAT HAPPENED) HEY MAYBE HE COULD BE THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE WORLD SEX SHOULDN’T SELL AND IT SHOULD BE SAVED AND CHERRISHED BETWEEN AND MAN AND A WIFE…. WOW HE WOULD TRULY BE A HERO TO A BAZILLION CHRISTIANS AROUND THE WORLD…TRUST ME I KNOW THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN ITS A GREAT THOUGHT BUT GOD IS NOT FUN AND SEX IS I GET IT , BUT I CAN ALWAYS HOPE AND I WILL RAISE MY CHILDREN TO UNDERSTAND WHY I BELIEVE WHAT I DO AND THIS SAD SAD STORY WILL STAY IN OUR FAMILY FOREVER WITH NO REAL ANSWERS OR REASONS JUST SORROW FOR THE DOUGLASS FAMILY AND THE ROACH FAMILY OVER WHAT…..
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on Tue, 25th Dec 2007 10:26 am
27 Can a man scoop fire into his lap
without his clothes being burned?
28 Can a man walk on hot coals
without his feet being scorched?
29 So is he who sleeps with another man’s wife;
no one who touches her will go unpunished.
30 People do not despise a thief if he steals
to satisfy his hunger when he is starving.
31 Yet if he is caught, he must pay sevenfold,
though it costs him all the wealth of his house.
32 But a man who commits adultery has no sense;
whoever does so destroys himself.
33 Blows and disgrace are his lot,
and his shame will never be wiped away.
34 For jealousy arouses a husband’s fury,
and he will show no mercy when he takes revenge.
35 He will not accept any compensation;
he will refuse a bribe, however great it is.
Misty
on Tue, 25th Dec 2007 12:45 pm
Please support Jason during this difficult time. I don’t know what happened that night, but I do know that Jason would never intentionally to do anything like this. It was very wrong for the 2 of them to be fighting, however I honestly believe that if he would have known the results of his actions, he would have done things differently.
I love Kelly & his daughter very much, by supporting Jason thru this, I dont want it to be mistaken as disrespecting his memory in any way. I know Kelly & I know he would not want Jason to be in jail, away from his children, if this was in fact an accident.
The intent to kill & the intent to argue or fight are 2 very different things. Both are very wrong, but in no way deserving of the same punishment.
Jason is very sorry about the results of his actions, he feels horrible, if he could trade places with Kelly I believe that he would in a second, just to rid himself of the guilt he has. He was very good friends with Kelly & also cared very much for his daughter.
He will have to live with the guilt of this very tragic accident for the rest of his life, that is far worse that any punishment that a judge could give him.
Misty
on Tue, 25th Dec 2007 1:12 pm
Also please step back & realize that alot of these atricles are media.. not Jason talking.
The “vet card” is being used by the media, not Jason.
Articles like this one are promping people to get upset & write back in Kellys defense, then also in Jasons.
Kelly was obviously not a “stalker” & I do not want him remembered in that way.
However, Jason is not an “animal” either.
None of us know the entire story so it is wrong of all of us to speculate, judge, and presume what did or didnt happen.
Karen
on Tue, 25th Dec 2007 6:52 pm
By reading Misty ’s post she says she supports Jason.
She should she is his wife ,whom he had 3 children with. She was not married to Kelly. And as a friend it is good that she says she loves him and his child,but he was not her husband .If there were problems in this marriage then get out don’t bring the problems home and then expect no repercussions.
If she was having an affair as been reported and I say IF…. then her part and blame in this tragedy is as much or not more than both Kelly and Jason.
She knew Jason and Kelly were friends and she was a married woman who took vows to her husband.She was not there that night but does she not think she helped to bring this situation to a head?
She says she does not want to be disrespectful of Kelly’s memory by supporting Jason .I feel she is being disrepectful by getting on the internet and telling everyone how she loved Kelly and Jason is not an animal.Not one time in her comments has she said she loved Jason.
The ones who are going to suffer are the children and parents of both of these men. I really beleive it was accidental and no one meant for anything to happen this way. I’m sure if either had any hindsight of the outcome they would have stayed thier distance. I’m sorry for the kids and Kelly and Jason,but remember there was a third party involved who also has responsibility in outcome.
mr.brooks
on Tue, 25th Dec 2007 9:53 pm
and where was the wife when this was happend,and why was this kelly man at the jason mans house, and is there anyone watching the children ,will we see this played out on csi this fall………..
peace
on Tue, 25th Dec 2007 9:56 pm
no more please no more anger hate saddness no more,
Angie Hensley
on Wed, 26th Dec 2007 12:22 am
The comments posted on this website is a joke and it really shows the charcther of those posting on it.
Whats ironic to me is people that want to claim they know Kelly so well and they know Kelly is heaven dont even know him well enough to know that Kelly didnt believe in God or in a Heaven???
Why is it, the people coming to Jasons defense can post thier names however those wanting to slander him choose to hide behind a screen name??
ALL of the facts WILL come out and when they do people will see, that had Kelly not died that night he would have also been charged with some serious felony offensive..thats not my opinon that is factual and when all of the evidence recievd at the crime scene comes forth you will all see this.
Shame on you “innocent victim” who wants to slander a dead man memory by claiming he is a “waste of space” and a “poor father” . Why dont you state ALL the facts by stating the reason Kelly didnt get to see his daugher regulary was b/c she lived in Virginia and ever free second he had he tried to spend with her. ANYONE that knew Kelly knows that to be a FACT.
Ive known Misty for 27 years and again try stating all the facts instead of asking her ex how often she cheated on him why dont you try asking HIM how often he cheated on her?
Last I checked it wasnt a crime to date while your going through a divorce, FACTS would show Misty was pregant as she was going through her divorce most with a brain know that divorces are not an overnight process and usually when your getting one you havent been happy for quite some time.
As far as thier 2nd little girl goes well to know her thier is no denying she is Jasons. Thier has NEVER been a question about that.
As far as Misty using the angle Jason was beating her….did you she tell you that? NO b/c she hasnt told ANYONE that, again trying getting your facts straight.
I know Misty loves Jason very much and I know she may have not come across that way thus far however, she has acted a grieving friend and wife that has no idea how this happened. She knows this was very out of charcther to all that were involved, put yourself in her shoes…how long would it take you to process what happened??
“Innocent Victim” you want to say Misty is not being truthful all you can accuse Misty of doing is having more charcther than you as to not to put her children out there by engaging in slanderish GOSSIP. She is not willing to comment on things she doesnt have facts as to what exactley happened that night.
I sure hope all the people that have chose to bash Kelly, Jason and Misty on this website dont have any skeltons in thier closets that thier children may come across one day.
Shame on you again ” Innocent Victim”….I dont really know how you sleep at night??? If you want to post your GOSSIP as facts have enough charcther and personal intergrity to stand behind by themusing your real name!
COUSIN AND MOM OF 3
on Wed, 26th Dec 2007 3:22 am
Its Strange The Rage That People Show One Another Even In The Mist Of Tragic Circumstances.. But I Would Like To Set The Statements I Made Straight To Angie…My Belief That My Cousin Is In Heaven Is My Belief Not His Thats Why I Wrote It The Way I Did… And If You Read Carefully Before Assuming You Are The Only One That Knows Everything You Will Also See I Said I Heard Alot Of Stuff And That We Will Never Know What Really Happened. I Of All People Understand That We All Persue And Want To Know What Really Happened Sorry Honey We Never Will…People Have Sat On Death Row For Crimes That 12 People Were Sure They Did And Low And Behold 8 10 Even 20 Years Later Science And Recanting Witnesses Say Sorry You All Got It Wrong So Unless We Have A Candid Camera Or Can Turn Back Time We Will Never Be 100% Sure What Happened That Night… Did Kelly Deserve To Die…No… Did Jason Have The Right To Lose His Temper …Yes… To Lose Control…No Thats Why Its Nice To Have These Blogs…We Can Calmly Read And Have Opinions Without Acting Out… As I Said My Religion Is Mine And If I Pray For My Cousin That Why He Lay There He Asked God To Forgive Him And Except Jesus As His Savior That Is My Hope And Prayer Not Yours Not Kellys No One But Mine And I Have That Right And Am Not Ashamed Of It Or Think That A Person Whom Doesn’t Know Me Or What Relationship I Had With My Cousin Or Not Can So Easily Pass Judgement. Thats Strange Since You Are Asking Everyone Else Not To Do That To Jason, Misty Or Kelly And I Believe I Didn’t. I Believe I Asked People To Pray For Jason…Anyway You Look At It He Killed A Friend What Reasons Are For The Judge To Figure Out But Jason Still Has A Sole And Is Now Alone So Don’t You Think He Needs Prayer….Or Maybe I’m Wrong About That And He Doesn’t But As I Said Earlier My Religion And Prayer Circle Is Mine. Please Try And Keep Yourself Open To Others Whom Are Just Trying To Understand And Make Their Own Sence Of Something That Makes No Sence. You Should Also Notice That All The Family In The Usa On Kellys Moms Side Are Pretty Much Military Brats Of One Kind Or The Other So This Ptsd Thing I Can Even Get And Understand So Please Don’t Consider Yourself The Only Person That Cares Or Knows Kelly. Cousins Are Cousins And You Don’t Know My Life Or Should Pass Judgement On Anyone…Don’t Let You Passion Lead You You Lead Your Passion…My Mom Was A Great Lady And She Once Told Me You Never Let A Man Into Your House When Your Spouse Is Not Home Unless He Is Blood Family Because Noisey Neighbors Will Notice And Soon Your Husband Will Get Told And Even If It Was To Kill A Simple Spider….Gossip Will Insue…I Think If Every Women Lived By That Simple Rule Life Might Have Less Gossip…And Misty Does Know The Facts Of Her Relationship With Jason And Kelly Although Maybe She Has Been Instucted Not To Say Anything To Anyone …. That Would Probably Be My Advice If I Was An Attorney….Or Am I The Only One That Thought Of That… Life Is Full Of Crap And I Guess Our Jobs For Whatever Reason If To Get Through It And Learn From It So All I Can Say Is This…And Mind You This Is My Opinion… This Senceless Crime Even If Because Of Passion Didn’t Prove A Thing It Didn’t Make Anyones Life Better Instead It Made Alot Of Lives Worse…..Didn’t It.. 2 Mothers Lost A Child, One May Still Be Alive But Will Never Be The Same… 4 Children Lost Their Fathers….. And 4 Kids Friendships Will Never Be The Same Because Of Their Parents And That Is What Is Sad Not The Blame Just The Shame Of It All…. And Another Thing Even If Misty And Kelly Had This Affair I Don’t Belive We Should Start Killing Over Them And Whatever Mistys Past Thats On Her Not For Us To Pass Judgement We Don’t Have That Right Even If I Knew Her And Her Past I Still Don’t Have That Right…Just As No One Should Pass Judgement On Kelly Or Jason The Only Thing We Can Honestly Say Is Jason Is Truly Suffering From His Actions He Killed A Friend (Even If By Accident) And Now His Life Will Never Be The Same Ever. I Personally Don’t Care Whom Cheated Or Cheated In The Past Jason, Misty, Or Kelly Its All Not Worth Dying Over Period Everyone Makes Mistakes And They Are Usually Stupid….Our Own Community Up Here Hade A 23 Yr Old Girl Drive Home 9 Kids Last Winter Allllll Drunk Had And Accident And 5 Died Everyone Came Down On Her Like A Ton Of Bricks My Thought Was What About The Parents Of These Kids Some Only 15 Out After 12am (You Know Nothing Life Changingly Good Happens After Midnight) Didn’t They Know Where The Kids Were. And My Biggest Opinion Was With Even The Cops We Are So Easy To Pass Judgement When I’m Sure More Than A Handful Of These Judgement Passing People Have Yes Driven Drunk…Yes She Is Facing 5 Counts Of Invol Man Slghter And Rightfuly So She Was 23 Drunk And Should Have Known Better. Her Poor Judgement Cost Her 2 Children Thier Mother, The Dead Teens Parents Children And 100’s Of Kids Friendships… My Going Off On This Tangent Is Life Is Full Of Crap And We All Should Just Try To Stop Making So Much We See Friends Or Even Non Friends In Trouble Reachout Take Thier Hand Let Them Cry On Your Shoulder, Take Thier Keys Anything You Can To Stop A Bad Bad Bad Decision From Happening… And If Thier Is Someone Out There That Has Had A Great Life Without Any Sarrow Please Write In We Need Some Hope Don’t We????Judgement Is Easy To Pass Understanding Is Work…Everyone Is Hurting There Doesn’t Have To Be A Right Person Or A Wrong Person In My Opinion Just 3 People That Forgiveness And Love My Cousin Is Dead That Is True But Jason Already Started Paying Didn’t He I Think So Anyway….
innocent victim
on Wed, 26th Dec 2007 9:31 am
Ya know I just have to say it again an apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, [edited by admin for unsubstantiated and slanderous remarks: Note: Please discuss the know facts about the situation or general comments about the situation. Name calling will not be allowed to continue. Thanks You - Admin]
Angie
on Wed, 26th Dec 2007 2:38 pm
To cousin and mom of 3. I to am a christian and I hope that Kelly did have chance to accept Christ before he died. My statement early was an indication that we can know people for years and not know everything there is to know…..My statement was not at all intended to pass any type of judgement on anyone and I apologize if thats the way it came across.
None of us have the right to pass judgement on Kelly, Jason or Misty….we are not thier makers….
I hate that this message board has been used to slander Kelly, Jason and Misty, all 3 are good people, but good people make mistakes sometimes…we all have made mistakes, those without sin please cast the first stone.
I personally apologize if any of my statements have come across as degrading Kellys memory in any way.
I knew kelly briefly and like I stated before, Kelly seem like a good man, a nice guy, and one trait that never went unnoticed was what a proud devoted father he was of his daughter.
My symapthys go out to you and your family for this horrible loss, and it show true christian charcther on your part for you to say that you are praying for him….I appreciate that.
I am not here to try and say I know all the facts….like you said everything will come out and some answers may always go unanswered as we may not find out the whole story. nobody but Jason and Kelly know what happened that night.
My comments here have never been intended to imply ” I know it all” all I have been trying to state is what I do know, and that is that Kelly and Jason were both very good men. I know this was a horrible accident and I know this was never Jasons intent and I am sure he would switch places with him if he could..he feels horrible and will live with this until the day he dies….noones hurtful comments can make Jason feel any worse than he already does.
Rachel
on Wed, 26th Dec 2007 5:45 pm
To all. I think that you need to step back and put yourself in the shoes of all parties involved. I have known Jason for a very long time and I can say that he is a loving and caring person that would never intentionally hurt anyone. Jason has always been there for me and my family. If we ever came across a problem, Jason was there to help. He loves his wife and his children. He loves his friends. I believe that Jason loved Kelly as well, that is until he thought that he was sleeping with his wife. I don’t know the facts about the supposed affair. I do know Jason and Misty and I know that neither has ever lied to me before and I find it hard to believe that they would now. I know that when Jason found the cell phone that Kelly bought Misty, it probably crossed his mind. I also know that if Misty’s friend told Jason what they are telling me, Jason would have suspected something. As far as Kelly, I don’t know him that well. I only talked to him at the many get togethers that Jason and Misty hosted. He seemed like a nice guy. But nice guys do bad things sometimes. Misty is a loving person and I could see Kelly falling in love with her. I know that Jason did. Jason loved her with all of his heart. He was so proud of her. He did everything for her and the kids.
Now for what I think, I think that Jason thought Kelly was having an affair with his wife. I think that Kelly went to Jason’s house to talk it over. I think that the two starting arguing and got into a fight. I think it was a fight that went bad. I don’t think Jason murdered his friend. I know that Jason would give anything to take back what happened. Even his own life. I know that there are three families suffering. Kelly’s grieving the loss of their son, brother, and father. Jason’s mom, family, and friends. And Misty and the girls. How do you look into the eyes of three children and tell them that their daddy won’t be coming home for a while? I think we should all put our thoughts aside and pray for all parties involved. I think that we should support Jason and his wife as well as Kelly’s family. After all this was an accident. Jason never intended on killing his friend.
Darlene D
on Wed, 26th Dec 2007 8:22 pm
To all,
I have known Misty, Jason & Kelly for years and know that they were all friends. I love all of them. I still have a text message from Kelly that he sent to me for my 50th birthday “Good gosh! You are OLD! … I mean Happy Birthday! U sexy thang”, I laughed and thanked him for the message. He had a great sense of humor, loved his daughter with all his heart, took care of his mother and sister and will be missed by everyone who knew him. I will miss him and do miss him.
Jason is also a wonderful son, husband and father. He would do anything for you, no matter what it was.
I know that Jason would never intentionally hurt anyone, he’s not like that at all. He had to be in a different state of mind to do what he did to Kelly. I know that Jason will always feel the pain and guilt of his actions. I love him and miss him too.
We will never know what happened that night. Only Jason and Kelly know. My heart goes out to the families of both men. I sincerely hope that Kelly is at peace and in heaven.
My heart goes out to Misty at this time. I was at the hospital with her and at the funeral. I know she loved Kelly and his daughter and had a great time with them. She also loved Jason very much, they have 2 wonderful girls together. Misty is grieving for the loss of two special men, Jason in jail and Kelly dead now from a very tragic and senseless accident.
Please join me in keeping prayers for all involved.
COUSIN AND MOM OF 3
on Wed, 26th Dec 2007 10:37 pm
I’m glad everyone is rallying around this terrible situation finally… and thank you to the admin for the deletion of innocent victims comments I read them before the deletion….all I can say is I hope my children will never be held responsible for my many sins and poor judgement calls. In otherwords Misty is not her father or mother and get a grip. I may have not spent much time with my cousin but I do know one thing he would not have been friends with whomever you were writting about. So my stupid thoughts may not matter to you and thats find MAY GOD BLESS YOU WITH TOLERENCE of those whom are not as perfect as you. To Angie, Rachel and Darlene Thank you for your kind words for Kelly whatever the facts we find out later no one is a winner in this. And this much I say with love… my cousin wouldn’t want his friend names and all the children drug through the mud I’m sure of that… Life for Jason realisticly I’m sure he will be in jail for a while no matter what the reasoning so it really is just a sad and painful situation for everyone. Kelly as far as my family knows was a great son to his mom and a great brother to Mika those responsibilities alone make him great in my eyes…he became older than his years early on I see that very clearly now as a mom of children without a physical problem like Mikas, I tend to ask my oldest to run and get this do this for his out of shape and sometimes LAZY ( ha ha) Mom…So i can’t even imagine how my Aunt and Uncle and Kelly did it … May everyone truely say those prayers we have all lost on this one…God Bless and Cherrish the ones you love they can be gone in a second thats for sure….
And to Misty hold your head as high as you can your kids need their MOMMY now more than ever… They’ve already lost too much and no matter what you did or didn’t do your not (in my opinion only folks!!!) your husbands keeper…Jason and Kelly were their own keeper that night…both seem to be intellegent and should have stop to debate another day… If you don’t believe in God than just take it for what its worth MAY GOD BE WITH YOU AND EVERYONE INVOLVED TO EASE THE PAIN….
Christine Sessa
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 12:50 am
I am one of Kelly’s many cousins, but he was more like a little brother to me. We spent our childhood summers together, playing all day and sometimes talking all night. We had a special bond, which I will always treasure.
At a very young age Kelly knew that he had an immense responsibility, taking care of his handicapped sister. Although he was always in her shadow, he did not resent her. In that way, he was an extraordinary and selfless child. I don’t know many children that would have the same capability. He knew that if anything happened to his parents; one day he would care for his sister, it was his obligation. When I was told about Kelly’s murder, the first person I thought of was his sister. Who will care for her when my Aunt is unable to?
I feel deep sorrow for Kelly’s daughter, sister, and mother. My Aunt is more like a mother to me - her life has been very unfair and filled with tragedy. No mother should have to bury their child, that is a horrible burden. She raised Kelly the best that she could while taking care of a special needs child. She did a wonderful job nurturing a loving, respectful, polite young man. My Aunt is my hero, I pray that she will get through this.
I miss Kelly, I called his cell phone to hear his voice one last time. I am angry that he will never be able to share our deep conversations with our children. I am angry that he will never be able to tell my children simple stories of how we used to catch fireflies in jars and watch them as we fell asleep. I feel like someone has stolen many stories from our children…. past events that would show them who we are as people… stories that would make them proud to have us as their parents. I am sick that I had to lie to my children regarding his death. I am broken that I will never be able to see or talk to Kelly again. I am empty that he was beaten and was taken away too soon.
All I pray for is that the uncompromised truth be told. Our family needs, and deserves, closure and peace.
Rachel
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 12:05 pm
Christine, Thank you for not bashing Jason in your post. Thank you for the wonderful stories of Kelly. This situation is a terrible situation all around. I understand your loss as I lost my brother when he was only 18. I will continue to pray for you and your family. As I will continue to pray for Jason and his. Jason is a wonderful person whom never meant for this to happen. Jason and Kelly were not that different. I trust Jason with my life and continue to do so. I trust him with my children as well.
A prayer for you:
I praise and worship you Lord, I love you and recognize that all I have is from You. Everything I have is Yours, and I surrender it all to You for Your glory. Therefore, whatever I have lost I release into Your hands. I praise You and thank You that this is the day that You have made, and I will rejoice and be glad in it. Thank You for Your grace and mercy. Thank You that You love me the way You do. Thank You that You will bring good out of my situation. No matter what has happened or will happen in my life, as long as I am alive I will sing praises to You. (Psalm 146:1-2)
Rachel
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 12:38 pm
I just spoke with Jason’s mom and I am mortified by the results of court today. Jason is being treated unfairly. I know that Kelly’s friends and family are looking at this onesided. And I understand. But it is time to open your eyes. Jason didn’t murder Kelly. Jason and Kelly were friends. Kelly went to Jason’s house knowing that Jason felt betrayed by he and his wife. No matter if it was true or not, that is what Jason felt. Kelly was told not to go to the house, but for some reason he did. So think about it. If you are a man and another man comes to your house after you found out what you thought was him having an affair with your wife, what would you do? Would you roll over and put you tail between your legs? No you would argue and possibly fight. You would fight for your family and your love. Unfortunately this fight which both were involved in, went bad and had unimaginable results. Results that Jason will have to live with for the rest of his life. Results that were accidental and results that don’t merit a lifetime in jail. Two men should never use their fists to settle an arguement, but that is what both Kelly and Jason did. This could have gone the other way. We could have buried Jason while Kelly was sitting in jail. Niether Kelly nor Jason could have imagined that this would have happened. If they knew, both would have made different choices.
As for Misty, I am sick and tired of everyone saying how much she loved Kelly. Kelly may have been her friend, but Jason is her husband. Know one, but Misty knows how she feels, so please don’t comment on it.
You may not agree with me, but I have to speak my mind. A wife is to stand by her husband for better or worse. She is to love her husband as she said she did the day that she took her vows. Right now Jason is at a low in his life and he needs his wife to stand by him and not judge him. She should not be judged by any of you for doing so. After all she took a vow in a church in front of God that she would love her husband and she would stand by him. Please don’t judge her for staying with her vow to Jason and to God.
A prayer on forgiveness:
It amazes me, Lord, that You love me so much that You would sacrifice Yourself so I could be forgiven completely. Your unfailing love is better to me than life itself. Thank You that You love me, even though You have seen me at my worst. Help me to be that same way toward others. Thank You, heavenly Father, that You are rich in mercy and grace toward me, and Your love and mercy are everlasting. Help me to become the loving and forgiving person You want me to be. Amen
Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, just as God in Christ forgave you. (Ephesians 4:32)
Lewis Hess
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 2:46 pm
I’m also a cousin of Kelly, I’m also a NCO in the US Military, and I’ve been married for 15 years and have 4 kids. I have deployed just like every other military member. I have read all of the messages that people have posted and find it amazing that people like Angie Hensley (Notice I left my Name NOT a screen Name) want to justify the taking of someone’s life using something like PTSD. That’s just a crutch people use when they don’t want to take responsibility for their actions. Google “sgt Bassa Cisse” another outstanding individual that killed someone, his own 6yo daughter, striking her so hard it ruptured he bladder, maybe he should use PTSD to justify his action, why take responsibility. Today’s society tries to find reasons or conditions so people don’t have to take responsibility for what they do. I don’t know if Kelly was having an emotional or sexual affair with Misty. But last time I checked my friends didn’t sign a marriage license, making it illegal to commit adultery, my wife did. Angie, your second posting makes it seem like maybe you know more than you are saying”that’s not my opinion that is factual…”.
Carol Ferguson, in your message you state that”… Kelly… went looking for trouble and that is just what he got.” and that “Jason did not intentionally plan to kill Kelly” or “why would Jason have called 911.” Shouldn’t he have done that when Kelly showed up at his house “because he was not welcome” or maybe he WAS invited?. As far as Jason’s kid not seeing their dad, they can go down to the jail and see him during visiting hours. Kelly’s child does not have that option; she will only have pictures and memories. If Jason has some time of anger problem that would cause him to think irrationally and take another mans life, maybe he could become another sgt Bassa Cisse and harm his own kids in a fit of PTSD or what ever crutch you’re pushing these days.
Misty, you say “Jason is very sorry about the results of his actions, he feels horrible, if he could trade places with Kelly I believe that he would in a second, just to rid himself of the guilt he has.” Wake up and smell what you’re shoveling! Sorry for the results of his action, guilt not sorrow, why doesn’t he become a man and take responsibility for his actions. He killed his friend! Whether he meant to or not, Kelly is dead. Did Jason feel guilty when he was beating him?
Rachel, you say “But nice people do bad thing sometimes” does this mean that Jason and Kelly are both capable of bad thing?. And “how do you look in the eyes of three children and tell them that their daddy won’t be coming home for a while?” how about telling a child their daddy wont be coming home EVER!. To answer your last posted question “Would you roll over and put you tail between your legs?” I would have done the RIGHT thing and called 911 for trespassing.
Since Rachel likes quoting the Good Book for her cause, I have some too:
“He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death” (Exodus 21:12)
“And if a man takes the life of any human being, he shall surely be put to death” (Leviticus 24:17)
“For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil” (Ecclesiastes 12:14)
The sad part is that what is justifiable by the Legal system is not always morally correct. Their will always be only one side of this story because the other side will never be told Jason made sure of that.
I feel great sorrow and my prayers and thoughts go out to my Aunt and Cousin in their time of sorrow.
I pray that Jason and Misty children will overcome and not be scarred by this awful tragedy.
Rachel
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 3:46 pm
Lewis, when I stated that about the children I was including Kelly’s daughter. See because anyone who knows all three adults involved in this terrible tragedy, also know that Jason’s oldest Brianna isn’t Jason’s biological daughter and would also know that she has her father near her.
As for your accusation that I was quoting the bible for my cause…that is not at all what I was doing. I was giving prayer to those involved to help with the healing process.
As to your comparison of Jason to Bassa Cisse, these stories are completely different and can not be compared. Kelly went to Jason’s house prepared to discuss his relationship with Jason’s wife. Kelly bought Jason’s wife a cell phone so the two could communicate without Jason knowing. Jason found the cell phone. Jason asked Kelly to leave his house, but Kelly chose not to. It is very hard for me to keep my lips together when so much bashing is going on. I am sure that Kelly was a wonderful guy. A wonderful guy like Jason that made a bad choice, but you need to see the choice that he made and realize that he too played a part in this. Now I have only hung out with Kelly a few times, but what I saw was Kelly likes to flirt and hang all over married women. Including myself whom he barely knew. You also need to see that if these stories are true, and to Jason they seemed true, Kelly was sleeping with his wife while Jason was over seas fighting for our freedom. You ask where the guilt was when Jason was beating Kelly. First off Jason and Kelly were fighting. Second my question to you is where was the guilt when Kelly was sleeping with a married women? Where was the guilt when Kelly bought the married women a cell phone? Where was the guilt when Kelly took the married women and her children to Virgina? Kelly is not the only victim in the tragedy. Kelly paid a worse consequence, but all involved are facing consequences for their actions.
God will bring his judgement, but see he will also forgive. Please don’t accuse me of using the word of God to defend my cause. See I don’t have a cause in the way you think that I do. I want for everyone in this situation to be able to turn to the Lord and find peace.
And since you feel the need to condem Jason by the bible, then I want you to see that both broke the laws of the bible. If you chose not to believe, I encourage you to read Leviticus 20:10. There it says:
“And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that comitteth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.” Again let me state that I don’t know if Misty and Kelly were together, I know that is what Jason thought. I also know that Kelly flirted with many married women with the intent to get laid.
Lewis Hess
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 5:10 pm
Rachel, You stated “…their daddy would not be coming home for a while” If your dead how is it a while. I don’t know the whole story; I have heard and seen many through out my military career. But, unless you were there and heard Jason tell Kelly to leave then you again are only hearing what Jason has stated as his defense. Kelly is not at court to defend himself. I’m in no way trying to bash anyone. I did not say Jason was some kind of monster or murderer for what happened nor is Kelly or Misty. They weaved a web that entangled them together with a very tragic outcome. I in no way said Kelly was innocent in anyway. As for him flirting, does this mean that I’m to assume that any female that flirts with me or anyone else is trying to get laid or maybe that is just part of their personality? I would consider making a statement like that bashing. I did not slander or bash anyone only rebutted some of the insensitive things others have said about this tragedy like “…went looking for trouble…. and got what he was looking for…” and I still say whether he intend to or it went too far, Kelly is dead, Jason needs to take responsibility for his actions!
I’m sorry if you feel I was trying to condemn Jason with the Bible. I’m just tired of people using the Bible to defend or merit some cause or injustice. But my final quote was the only quote I should have used. But, you’re “A prayer on forgiveness” kind of seemed to imply that Jason should be forgiven for what he has done by mistake or with intent. Also as far as the Bible goes and your Cause, I believe “A prayer on forgiveness” is a little premature wouldn’t it be better for some type of healing quote. Most people have to heal before they can forgive. Your quote on adultery, I actually agree with. But society bases marriage with the option of divorce.
Rachel
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 6:31 pm
Let me clarify…….By my post I am not in any way saying that Kelly and Misty were having an affair. In fact if you read all my posts you will see that I said that Misty has never lied to me before and I wouldn’t expect that she would now. Misty, Jason, and Kelly are all good people that got mixed up in a bad situation. When talking about Kelly and his flirtaous manner, I in no way intended to say that he sought out married women. I just was saying that he flirted with women which to their husbands could make them think more.
Do I think they were having an affair? Well that doesn’t really matter. I trust my friends and what they tell me. Do I think that Jason had it in his head that they were? Yes, I think that for some reason he thought that. It may have been a huge misunderstanding. He and Kelly were friends. They spent time together and cared for each other. I again will say that this was a fight that went bad and we need to stop judging and start healing.
Lewis, I want to clarify to you that I put the quote up because you upset me with yours. I wanted you to see that there are all different ways to sin. In fact both quotes come before Jesus was born. And I believe that Jesus was sent to be our Lord and Savior and that through him our sins are forgiven. I have faith that Jason will be forgiven. I also have faith that all involved will heal.
Lewis Hess
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 7:00 pm
Rachel, I also believe that in time everybody will heal and that ALL the people involved will this tragedy will be forgiven. Sorry, if I upset You that was not my intent.
Rachel
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 8:24 pm
Thank you. I too am sorry if I upset you are anyone else. I just hink that this is a terrible event and sometimes the only way to process is to post to places like this website.
COUSIN AND MOM OF 3
on Thu, 27th Dec 2007 11:15 pm
This is just a note to the people that feel that Jason is being treated unfairly…We all go through life hoping we will never have to see the court room we believe in our judicial system and that it is so fair…I have yet to meet a man with no flaws so to say the judicial system is fair is kinda saying that all men and women are fair…by no means am I saying it is all wrong but it is only as fair as it can be… An example is a women is being beaten by her husband (she is six months pregnant) she stabs him defending her unborn children he dies that night the 2 children die within 48 hrs of the attack…Pretty cut and dry right well she is serving 25 yrs because that state believed she should have walked away or taken the beating…they do not believe in a law of self defense… The LAW is black and white there is no grey just plea bargins…. Sorry but no matter how we would love to cut it KELLY IS DEAD and he didn’t kill himself… so we can say Jason is not a murderer and not like what is being said but the law will only use other word muderer in the 1st , manslaughter or neg homicide non of which I feel is any better than murderer or killer is it really. I am sure of this no matter how it plays out in court the jobs are going to be simple Jasons attny will drag Kellys name
through the mud and the DA will drag Jasons name through the mud a trial will do just that..what they get paid to do…I am not passing judgement just hoping to let everyone who really thinks Jason will walk free from this, no matter what label you use he was involved with the death of another…and he will serve time period
How much is really up to him and the court systems if you are his friends then maybe you should check out some law libraries and see other similar crimes and what they were sentece to with or without a trial so he can decide if he wants to go to trail.. Do not rely on your attny a trial consist of 12 people and I am a sole believer in don’t put your eggs all in one basket…
Please take this to heart no matter why my cousin was at Jasons he did not deserve to die and having so many relatives in the service could actually bring this to surface in some states Jason should have known when to walk away not with his tail between his legs but because he was a soldier and was trained to use deadly force…Just another LAW see what I mean just something to think about…
I am not trying to upset anyone yet we need to think through things and I think alot of people think being a nice guy and friends makes it easier trust me if you think this nice website is bad Court will be 1,000,000
times worse…
COUSIN AND MOM OF 3
on Fri, 28th Dec 2007 12:55 am
This is a comment to ponder only… in one of the postings Rachel states Kelly bought Misty a cell phone so they could communicate without Jason knowing…..Please be careful of what you say this could imply Misty was carring on with another man or was Jason such a controll freak that he wouldn’t let or trust his wife to have a male friend….That all I’m saying is be careful what you say…NO other party has so clearly stated that indeed Kelly and Misty were having a torrid love affair….Also I am married and a good friend of my husband and myself bought me a cell phone while my husband was gone…why because my credit sucked and my husband would call him if I wasn’t home worried I was hurt….So thats what I thought could be why Kelly did this for Misty …but now…I don’t know but no matter what Lewis is right we don’t know the whole story…But this I can say my Mom was right you will always have trouble when your married and hang with a man that is not your husband people will talk and as you can see they do friends told me this and that…have you ever done the experiment were you whisper in someones ear and it gets passed on to another and so on … when it gets back to you it is distorted and almost a lie….To say that Misty would never lie to you and then put those blurbs in reguarding Kelly and a married women well what will people think…Let you lead your passion for your friends not your passion lead you…. Still Praying
I believe
on Fri, 28th Dec 2007 1:26 am
I believe-
that no matter how good a friend is,
they’re going to hurt you every
once in a while and you must forgive
them for that.
I believe-
that you can do something in an instant
that can change your life forever.
I believe-
that it’s taking me a long time
to become the person I want to be.
I believe-
that you should always leave loved ones
with loving words. It may be the last
time you see them.
I believe-
that you can keep going
long after you think you can’t.
I believe-
that we are responsible for what we do,
no matter how we feel.
I believe-
that either you control your attitude
or it controls you.
I believe-
that heroes are the people
who do what has to be done
when it needs to be done,
regardless of the consequences.
I believe-
that sometimes the people you expect
to kick you when you’re down,
will be the ones to help you get back up.
I believe-
that sometimes when I’m angry
I have the right to be angry,
but that doesn’t give me
the right to be cruel.
I believe-
that just because someone doesn’t love
you the way you want them to doesn’t
mean they don’t love you with all they have.
I believe-
that maturity has more to do with
what types of experiences you’ve had
and what you’ve learned from them
and less to do with how many
birthdays you’ve celebrated.
I believe-
that it isn’t always enough to be
forgiven by others. Sometimes you
have to learn to forgive yourself.
I believe-
that no matter how bad your heart is broken
the world doesn’t stop for your grief.
I believe-
that our background and circumstances
may have influenced who we are,
but we are responsible for who we become.
I believe-
that just because two people argue,
it doesn’t mean they don’t love each other
And just because they don’t argue,
it doesn’t mean they do.
I believe-
that you shouldn’t be so eager to find out a
secret. It could change your life forever.
I believe-
that two people can look at the exact
same thing and see something totally.
different.
I believe-
that your life can be changed in a matter of
hours by people who don’t even know you.
I believe-
that even when you think you have no more
to give, when a friend cries out to you
you will find the strength to help.
I believe-
that credentials on the wall
do not make you a decent human being.
I believe-
that the people you care about most in life
are taken from you too soon.
I believe….Everyone on this page should stop leaving comments and fighting with someone else about them. This is all a waste of time and energy that could be put into helping parents and child deal with thier loss. Even though Jason is just in jail as someone stated. He still has family that are feeling a loss also. What if the tables had turned and Jason would have died? Would you not be feeling a loss for Kelly right now. His didn’t get to spend Christmas with his children and I’m sure they don’t understand why their father wasn’t there anymore then Kelly’s daughter did. I’m sorry but Kelly , Jason and Misty are not innocent victims. Her role in all this will come out in court also, her past, the kind of person she is, what was really going on with her, Kelly and Jason and what these two men where dealing with. They all have played a role in the outcome of this. The only innocent victims are the children and the family member left behide to deal with it. Do you have any idea what Jason’s chrildren are going to hear and what is going to be said to them at school? Kids are cruel. Thank god Kelly’s daughter doesn’t live around here and she will not have to go through all of that. I think the time you are wasteing on here could be time used to see how a family member is doing or just to listen if that is what is needed. Pick up the phone phone and tell those children you love them and so did/does their dads. ALL OF THIS IS POINTLESS!! EVERYONE please just stop!!!
Angie
on Fri, 28th Dec 2007 8:31 am
To Lewis, I just want to clarify that I never intented in my previous comment talking about PTSD to be used as an excuse to allow murder any time.
The point I was trying to make is we dont know what happened or what was going on in either of the twos minds when this happened. I dont believe this should go unpunished. Kellys life was taken and a price should be paid. My intent was this wasnt murder as some were saying this was an accident, Jason didnt use a weapon or anything but his hands….Im sure he never thought death would be an outcome from just the use of his own hands.
I want Jason to get help for whatever problems he has with his anger…..and I believe what ever problems he has had with his anger were acquired during his time in Iraq as he never had issues before he left.
Again, it makes me feel bad to think some preceived me justifying taking anothers life….heck….I dont even justify the fact of putting another ones hands on each other in anger…..all I was trying to say was that this needs to be treated like it was an accident, it wasnt cold blooded murder. As far as what Jason was thinking when he was fighting with Kelly….I dont believe he was thinking of anything….I think he may have blacked out and when he realized what had happened he did call 911.
Also, I agree even though Kelly went to house that night when he knew he wasnt welcome….he did not get what he deserved that night…noone deserves to lose thier life…Kelly was not the only victim, Jason is not the only one to blame….Everything about this entire situation is a terrible tragedy. Any my heart and prayers go out to all the families and friends that have been affected by this.
Lewis Hess
on Fri, 28th Dec 2007 11:03 am
Angie, in no way did I believe you were trying to use PTSD to justify Jason taking another persons life. But other people have and will. Jason or his attorney may use it to “Justify” his action. In no way do I or should it be conceived that I would place Jason any were near Bassa Cisse, Bassa Cisse is in need of serious HELP. I only used him as an example of several articles I have read were people try and use something like PTSD to justify their horrific actions. I have seen many people change due to deployments. Some people go the whole time worried that their better half is out screwing around or they find it a perfect time to screw around. It doesn’t have to be some combat related issue stress alone can cause people to change. Using the same stupid slogan Las Vegas stole “what goes TDY stays TDY” (TDY stands for Temporary Duty). If he does have a problem then I hope that he seeks help and that the military doesn’t forget about their duty to help. I pray and hope that Jason did not plan this. I do not believe that, as Misty said, Jason would trade place in a second with Kelly or this terrible tragedy would never have happened. I hope and pray Jason can come to terms with what he has done, take responsibility, and finds forgiveness, from himself, if Kelly was truly his friend. I don’t believe anyone, Kelly, Misty or Jason were innocent victims in this terrible tragedy. It seems to me that there was a lack of communication and trust between Misty and Jason and Jason and Kelly.
Rachel, if Misty did not tell Jason that she and the kids were going to Virginia with Kelly that is her lack of communication and courtesy to her husband. If Kelly was able to ask Jason, and didn’t, if it was OK for her and the kids to accompany him to Virginia then it would have been Kelly’s lack of communication and courtesy to his friend. When Jason found out about this he should have told/ask Kelly not to do those types of this with out OKing it with him and told Kelly how he perceived it. That’s what adults are supposed to do. Not let their Ego or Pride get the better of them. In one of your posts you stated “You would fight for your family and your love” I do not think you meant this as if Kelly posed a direct threat to Jason and Misty’s family because they were not there only Jason, and as far as “your love” that is something you give someone that no one can take away, if it’s in reference to your spouse, that is something you can’t fight for, it has to be given freely or it wouldn’t be love. I only stated this to clarify it.
COUSIN AND MOM OF 3
on Fri, 28th Dec 2007 12:24 pm
To I BELIEVE…I don’t think anyone is fighting on this sight at all I think we are all trying hard to understand each others loss and friendship with all… When our own family suffered its own seperate tragedy from this one A Pastor said something I will always remember when people say they understand your loss they are only searching for the right words because NO ONE can understand a persons loss…we are all different and even when we are in the exact same situation we handle it differently…My loss then was with my own loss of not saying something to my loved ones yet even though the loss was the same for my siblings I could not know how the loss was affecting them our loss was the same but it effected us different. So if your loss is affecting you and this sight doesn’t help then simply change the channel I think it is helping alot of us and trying to express ourselves in an honest and not angry way. None of the cousins have held Kelly up to be a saint so please don’t expect Jason to be one either…I’m sure as Kelly had wonderful traits so does Jason…my point is present tense for Jason..
His loss right now is at his own hands as you see other people in the land have had affair or been misunderstood do we now say its okay to take a life for those things. Jasons family is in my prayers but thier pain can not be compairable to the family and friends that have lost Kelly they will never have the chance in the human form to say I LOVE YOU or IM SORRY… this is the only way to help the healing for alot of us and keep in mind from my last 2 blurb this ain’t nothing…court will bring up and find any little flaw a human could have made at 10yrs old so and so hit if friend because he wouldn’t give him a red ball instead of a blue one yes dear it will come to that. This is hurting your heart well get ready for breaking it baby that is what a trial will do… This isn’t fun for anyone and its only going to get worse….Note to all.. attnys for the defended and prosicuters and even some judges
eat and socialize together why because thier jobs are not personal to them the LAW IS THE LAW…Does it matter if a person wrote a bad check to feed thier family no they broke the LAW….black and white no grey….I can only say I wish that my relationship with my cousins was as close as Christine see for that alone my loss is different than hers but we both loved Kelly he was and will always be my cousin whom was taken to early…he to deserved to see his daughter grow up and to say he would trade places well those are words from someone in pain and if he couldn’t face being divorced from Misty or just understanding his wrong comprehesion of the situation….Do you honestly think he could just die and not see those people he loved so easily…I’m a Christian but God willing I never have to make the choice but it would be a very hard desision after all we are not Jesus and our will means wanting to see our family…Jason no matter what made a mistake he can’t trade places and I personally would want him to this is a horrible place to be what I would rather say is Jason do not answer the door…Sorry if this hurts you more but if you intend on going to court to support Jason you had better toughen up because we on this sight are all talking and sharing
I hope I am not offending anyone and I am not taking anyones(except the person whom oviously got blocked) comments as intentionally mean we are all just talking and trying to reply with grace…I’m telling you court will be way way way worse Kellys family and Jasons family will shed many tears at the mean
mean things that Jasons attny will say and the DA will say even worst things about Jason because he gets voted into office and needs to win this case….This is what I mean we need this to know those people are not us we all need to hear each other and pray that we can all someday come to terms with this….just keep praying and thank you for listening
Angie
on Fri, 28th Dec 2007 1:15 pm
I just want to say it has really touched my heart listening to everyone blogs…..at first it got me very angry with what was preceived as vicous attacks on Kelly, Jason and Misty…but reading the prayers that have gone out for both families it really has touched me
I would like to say thank you to those members of Kellys family that are able to find it in thier heart to remember Jason and his family in your prayers.
I could only imagine being in your familys place and sending up prayers for the person that has taken a precious member of your family away….by being able to do that your truly know that forgiveness is a gift from God.
From hearing everything that people have said about Jason and Kelly both its ironic to me that they both seem so much alike….but caring, kind, loving men but yes if the good ones make mistakes sometime….
Thanks again for everyones prayers….
Clarification
on Fri, 28th Dec 2007 2:06 pm
Just to clarify- I do know that Jason knew about this trip to VA. She did tell him, that she was going. They talked while she was there.
There are pictures of the trip on her page & they were also sheared at Jason & Kellys work. It was a trip to see Kellys daughter, as their children were very close.
the law
on Fri, 28th Dec 2007 7:08 pm
WOW charges upgrade to murder. They must have enough evidence that Jason somehow lured Kelly to his home looking for a fight.. Kelly had no way of knowing what was in store for him.Jason is a trained Iraq Vet…He knew how to defend himself , Kelly on the other hand was a gentle gaint that didn’t stand a change in hell… I fill for Sydni, she is the one that will have to live with the last memory of seeing Kelly was in a casket and she will never be able to chat with him ever again..I ask you to try for one moment to put yourself in her shoes..Then ask if Jason should go to jail…..The police have enough evidence to charge him with murder, so there is more out there that we don’t know
Rachel
on Fri, 28th Dec 2007 9:33 pm
To The Law, please don’t speak on a matter that you don’t know much about. I say that because if you knew a lot about the way court cases work, you would know that the initial charge is always high to leave room for plead barginning. And please if you are brave enough to post, please use your name and don’t hide. May God be with you and help you through this time and help you calm your anger and heal your heart.
Lewis Hess
on Sat, 29th Dec 2007 12:17 am
The Law, I feel pain/sorrow and even anger sometimes about what happened and you are right “there is more out there that we don’t know ” . We will never know the complete story. But, remember in this country, no matter what you are “charged” with, we are innocent until proven guilty. Everyone deserves that right.
COUSIN AND MOM OF 3
on Sat, 29th Dec 2007 1:35 am
Rachel please don’t say those using a screen name are hiding…they maybe friends of Jasons and Kelly and feel that they are in some way betraying thier friend let them have the same outlet we all do ….Or maybe they are or a family member is truely being stalked and don’t want anyone to know a thing about them…I’m just thankful that people are able to use this blurb otherwise where might thier anger take them…I am more courious to why the charges got changed to murder and when did they decide this. The facts maybe painful but we all deserve to hear them and let them sink in…I mean if Jason did ask Kelly to come over shouldn’t all of us know this not to condem Jason but to figure out just how messed up his mind and heart were at the time…God forbid I don’t want to think this man just decided Kelly needs to die today…And Misty maybe she does need to come forward and tell the facts as she knows them…she does know if she was having an affair or was it all in her husbands mind and he just fliped out…A women in her 80’s married for 62 years told me her secret was men are visual they see and act they don’t listen like women…thats why men appriciate young and beuatiful
women and make us old ones feel less then (those are our feelings not theirs) without understanding that it truely hearts are heart…they are just wired differently…and you can’t think your husband loves you less just because he coments on a pretty women they just don’t get it…so maybe Jason didn’t hear no we are not sleeping together he just saw this close bond and freaked only Misty can answer that.. She does know that much…She is taking alot of heat and in alot of ways hurting everyone but remember I said it earlier there is an attny involved…they tell you what to say and what not to say thats their job….
To KK's friend
on Sat, 29th Dec 2007 3:26 am
I re read her posting & I didnt see where it said that Kelly would forgive him, here is what she said:
“I know he would not want Jason to be in jail, away from his children, if this was in fact an accident.”
I see that she made sure to say IF
As I stated before, whether there was or wasnt an affair shouldnt & doesnt matter. She is not the one on trial, Jason is. There is no justification for what he did. Affair or no affair.
What kind of satisfaction are you looking for in wanting confirmation of an affair? Wait though.. you seem to already have that.
There are 4 children involved in all of this- I think it is to be expected that she not commenting on any of this gossip. How do you think Sydni would feel if this woman came forward & said that there was an affair? That her daddy was sleeping with his friends wife, not only her daddys friend, but her friend as well??
Think about the children before you lash out with your words. Stop trying to promote more caddy gossip that is irrelevant to the murder charge at hand.
To KK"s Friend
on Sat, 29th Dec 2007 10:20 am
I can’t take this anymore. I get on here and read these postings every day and think “May God be with you all” I hope and pray that the truth will come out and help heal everyone. But today I have to speak my mind because you make Jason out to be a murder when in fact he is not. [edited: more hear-say and a bit too pointed for the nature of the post] Kelly told Jason that he was sleeping with his wife. But you know the difference between a murder and Jason? Jason is sitting in jail facing life in prison and all he cares about is his family. He told his mother and friends that he didn’t want to bring Misty and Kelly into this because he didn’t want Misty to hurt anymore then she is and she didn’t want Kelly’s name ruined. He had the opportunity to divorce his wife and point the blame on her and Kelly, but chose not to because he didn’t want to hurt them anymore or hurt their families. Do you know that in the state of Ohio, Jason could use the self defence laws in his favor because Kelly had a gun? But at this point he is choosing not to because again to do that he will ruin Kelly’s name and memory and it will hurt Misty. You don’t know Jason at all. This terrible tragedy was in fact an accident. [Edited]
To cousin and mom of three
on Sat, 29th Dec 2007 10:48 am
You have a golden family that does no wrong. I mean you should get an award for your kind spirited no wrong doing “Asain” family. Thats what you want right. To prove that your family is golden and there is no way that Kelly could do anything wrong. Right? I have news for you. I am Kelly’s friend and I am hurting too. But I know that Kelly wasn’t golden. No human is. I know that Kelly was a huge flirt and liked women. [edited: for personal attacks] The fight between Jason and Kelly went to far. I agree. But if Kelly came to my house and told me he was sleeping with my wife, I would kick his ass just as I would throw her shit on the front lawn.
To KK's friend
on Sat, 29th Dec 2007 10:58 am
By the way Jason was not trianed to kill with his hands, he was trained to kill with a gun. They teach that in the Marines not in the Reserves. I know because it too am from a military background.
Karen
on Sat, 29th Dec 2007 11:40 am
The murder charge is to get Jason to plead to the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter. This is done in order for the Lawyers to plea bargin his rights and sentences.This is a common practice.
I’m glad to see at least one letter with pretty accurate facts.
The last letter from the person who told about the gun
was pretty accurate. And people there was a witness who heard jason tell Kelly to leave .
All of this is going to played out in court and it will get nasty for everyone.
You know I agree that
Kelly’s mom needs help and I’m sorry for her loss .As you said no one should have to bury a child.
But in the Christian manner has anyone from Kelly’s side thought how Jason’s mother is doing ? Or Jason’s grandparents who are still living?
So you all know Jason was raised in a religous home and I’m sure it is in his mind . Jason was in church all the time as a kid,but as you know you do not always stay with your raising ways and you do stray .
This whole mess is heart breaking for everyone involved .
Now as to all the children why not someone set up a trust for all children involved that has a laywer or someone else in